Tony Ramos e Lilia Cabral

Together, Tony Ramos and Lilia Cabral have more than 70 soap operas in their resumes. Cast to play the villains in "O Sétimo Guardião" (The Seventh Guardian), the actors give spoilers about the new primetime soap opera, reminisce about memorable TV roles, and comment on the future of Brazilian television drama on "Conversa com Bial" this Wednesday.

The show’s own verdict is on its page.