Gringo Cardia e Aníbal Massaini Neto

On Pelé's 80th birthday, Pedro Bial fulfills a request made by the idol 23 years ago: 'Parties and tributes while he's still alive.' To discuss the man Edson Arantes do Nascimento, now reclusive and withdrawn, and the idol Pelé, the show "Conversa" welcomes set designer Gringo Cardia and Aníbal Massaini Neto.

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